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Waltz Burlesque (formerly: Rustic Waltz)
« on: August 31, 2020, 03:27:55 PM »
This was "Waltz Pasquinade" in the "in Progress" section.   I think it is complete enough to move it here.

Audio - https://app.box.com/s/vn98rbc0j6087abzxrfe6xd354ntpnmu
Score - https://app.box.com/s/37tea3j44q805sv4g2kc43k8jtqw6pme
(Last updated Sept 6, 2020)
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Re: Rustic Waltz
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2020, 07:24:59 PM »
Very charming indeed ................... it flows well and around and around it goes.............................

I also enjoyed they harmonic shifts along the way they added a bit of mystery to the witty participants in the romp.

Well done.

Mark

PS:  Nice use of the instrumentation too.

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Re: Rustic Waltz
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2020, 10:38:44 AM »
Patrick,
 
Well, the original title was more flavorful and less generic than the new one.
 
But a waltz by any other name sounds just as sweet.
 
Nice work.
 
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Re: Rustic Waltz
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2020, 12:15:51 PM »
Congratulations for this nice work, Pat!

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Re: Rustic Waltz
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2020, 07:12:14 PM »
What a lovely work! The only thing that rubbed me the wrong way was the perfect fifth in measure 94 between bassoon and horn, D and A. Otherwise, as Mark said, "charming"!

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Re: Rustic Waltz
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2020, 08:17:48 PM »
Well, the original title was more flavorful and less generic than the new one.
The trouble is, the old title just wasn't accurate - it's really was not a pasquinade.  A parody, perhaps.  The original title was "Waltz Burlesque", and that is probably the best name.  However, my wife thought that sounded a bit disreputable.   :)

The only thing that rubbed me the wrong way was the perfect fifth in measure 94 between bassoon and horn, D and A.
I'll see what I can do about that.  I hadn't noticed parallel 5ths.  I've made a quick change, but I'm not sure it works.  I'll attack it again tomorrow. 

Thanks to all who've commented.
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Re: Rustic Waltz
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2020, 12:06:01 PM »
Well, the original title was more flavorful and less generic than the new one.
It is now "Waltz Burlesque" - my original name for the piece.  And to avoid misunderstanding, I've included a definition of "burlesque" (paraphrased to avoid copyright violations) in the program notes.  I've also changed the program notes wording a bit (and corrected misspellings and finger checks).

The only thing that rubbed me the wrong way was the perfect fifth in measure 94 between bassoon and horn, D and A.
Reworked it a bit.  I wasn't sure if it was the parallel 5ths that bothered you or the notes themselves, but I have now avoided both.

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Re: Waltz Burlesque (formerly: Rustic Waltz)
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2020, 04:31:21 PM »
Patrick,

My vote still goes to Pasquinade.

Although I guess no title could be more generic than Ravel's La Valse.

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Re: Waltz Burlesque (formerly: Rustic Waltz)
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2020, 09:54:16 AM »
My vote still goes to Pasquinade.
Most definitions of "pasquinade" have it a lampoon or satire.  I don't think the piece is satirical.  I'd rather give the impression of an ineffective or unsuccessful imitation.  Or perhaps a gentle take-off.  If anything seems to be ridiculed, I want it to be the act of imitation, not the subject of imitation.

Maybe "Waltz Parody"?

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Re: Waltz Burlesque (formerly: Rustic Waltz)
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2020, 10:31:07 AM »
As Jer says, it sounds as sweet under any name, though perhaps even more lovely and more temperate when called Burlesque and if that one actually does have a bothersome enough connotation, you'll at least be having some illustrious company.

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Re: Waltz Burlesque (formerly: Rustic Waltz)
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2020, 10:33:19 AM »
Patrick,
 
I just like the sound of pasquinade, regardless of meaning. Like some of the fanciful titles of Satie's short prices or tunes by jazz musicians.
 
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Re: Waltz Burlesque (formerly: Rustic Waltz)
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2020, 11:51:50 AM »
I sincerely think it is a very "sound" reason to uphold a name for a work!

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Re: Waltz Burlesque (formerly: Rustic Waltz)
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2020, 02:55:57 PM »
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I wasn't sure if it was the parallel 5ths that bothered you or the notes themselves, but I have now avoided both.

To clarify, I was referring to the perfect fifth interval, not any parallel fifth movement.

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Re: Waltz Burlesque (formerly: Rustic Waltz)
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2020, 03:17:51 PM »
To clarify, I was referring to the perfect fifth interval, not any parallel fifth movement.
Well, I 'fixed" both, but I think I'll rework it some more.  And I'm not so sure it won't go back to what I originally had.  I realize I've been trying to find what I like best that is different than what was there before, not what I like best.
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Re: Waltz Burlesque (formerly: Rustic Waltz)
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2020, 09:24:11 PM »
I'm still struggling with the name.  My teacher suggested I perhaps focus on the character of the piece.  So thinking of its different moods I considered things like "Cryptic Waltz", "Mercurial Waltz", "Obtuse Waltz", "Capricious Waltz".  None was particularly accurate but that last one resonated.  The work is temporarily called "Waltz Caprice". 

I've made a few musical tweaks to the pieces - typical of the way I treat completed works.

Edit:
The above list of names emphasized the changing moods of the piece.
Some other options based on number of moods:
Indecisive Waltz
Equivocal Waltz
Ambivalent Waltz
Inconsistent Waltz
Discrepant Waltz
Incongruent Waltz

I kind of like "Incongruent Waltz".
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