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Fanfare for an occasion
« on: June 28, 2020, 09:09:23 AM »

I have been writing some music lately, but I havenít had a sound file to accompany the music. Just needed to get my ideas down on ďpaperĒ. I was planning to make sound files later.

My publisher sent me a mock-up of one of my pieces that are being published. He used Noteperformer because of Covid-19 restrictions regarding bands meeting to play together.
So, no live recording.
 
I was so impressed with the result that I upgraded Finale and bought Noteperformer. Itís not perfect, but itís way better than GPO. I feel I can save some time doing it this way
and get a good result.  :D

Here is one of the pieces I have written. Itís a fanfare written for brass band. The piece is derived from an old theme I had notated years ago.

I used Noteperformer to make the mock-up. It is not straight out of the score, but from a separate file. I needed to tweak things a bit.

There is a rall. in bar 96 which I just cannot get to work the way I want. No matter what I do. There are no cautionary accidentals yet. I will do that at the end.

I hope you like this and comments are appreciated.  :)

Morten

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Compositions: Wind band, Brass band and Fanfare
Platform: Windows 10
Notation: Finale 26
DAW: Cubase 10
Instrument: Bassoon, Euphonium
Day Job: TEGG Technician

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Re: Fanfare for an occasion
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2020, 10:15:44 AM »
Morten,
 
I like it very much. It's a wonderful piece.
 
Your command of band writing is impressive. I love the iterations of the short theme phrase. Everything is clear, even in the thickest passages.
 
What don't you like about the rallando? It sounds fine to me.
 
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Re: Fanfare for an occasion
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2020, 10:26:25 AM »

Jer.

Thank you for your kind words.  :)

The rall is supposed to work gradually from 97 but works only in the last bar.
Finale will not let me use the same rall twice. I must study this a bit further.

Glad you liked it.  :)

Morten
Compositions: Wind band, Brass band and Fanfare
Platform: Windows 10
Notation: Finale 26
DAW: Cubase 10
Instrument: Bassoon, Euphonium
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Re: Fanfare for an occasion
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2020, 11:44:03 AM »
What can I say ..... I AM A FAN!

I really enjoyed following your score ..... lots of good learning in there.

Very graceful thematic material development .....  it leads you along with appropriate excitement; however does not hit you over the head!

I liked the way you used your ensembles to create color etc.

American as apple pie~!

Please post more of your work.

Mark

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Re: Fanfare for an occasion
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2020, 12:16:17 PM »
Morten: Very nice work! For me, it's a study in brass band scoring! Couple of things that bothered me: First, I found the chord on the 3rd beat of measure 17, and another in measure 21 disagreeable. Also, I see you have small, italic measure numbers beneath the bottom staff and an occasional small, boxed measure number on the top staff. I'd add more boxed measure numbers on the top staff, and I'd make the bottom staff measure numbers larger and Roman. I'd probably add more to the percussion parts, too.

And I do like the NotePerformer rendering. NP is great!

Bravo, Morten!

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Re: Fanfare for an occasion
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2020, 12:57:22 PM »

Mark and Art, thank you for your kind inspirational words. Iím so glad you liked it. ;D

Art, I will look into those chords you mentioned. Itís just Gm7/Bb (concert pitch) but Iíll have a look.

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Compositions: Wind band, Brass band and Fanfare
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Notation: Finale 26
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Re: Fanfare for an occasion
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2020, 02:35:50 PM »
A good example of this type of piece. The various sections flow into each other well. The handling of the forces worked well.

Well done.
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Re: Fanfare for an occasion
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2020, 03:20:02 PM »
Congratulations Morten! I agree with Art that this is really very crafty brass writing and sounds very good with NP3. I think the piece is coming along nicely but it might be starting to sound a bit repetitive at some sections.

Keep up the good work! :)

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Re: Fanfare for an occasion
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2020, 05:33:38 PM »
[size=78%]The rall is supposed to work gradually from 97 but works only in the last bar.[/size]
Finale will not let me use the same rall twice. I must study this a bit further.
Morten,
 
Would a rit. instead of a rall. work the way you want?
 
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Re: Fanfare for an occasion
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2020, 04:49:52 AM »

Jerry, I did put a rit in there in the mock-up and it works ÖÖ.sometimes.

I have found that if I use multiple ralls/ rits only the first 3 or so works.
The rest donít work, or the tempo almost stops.

Sometimes I can get them to work but then I must make a mock-up before I exit the program or else any duplicated ralls/ rits are gone.

I have found some solutions online ÖÖÖwhich have not worked  ;D so I have to search some more.

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Compositions: Wind band, Brass band and Fanfare
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Instrument: Bassoon, Euphonium
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Re: Fanfare for an occasion
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2020, 05:42:13 AM »
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I have found that if I use multiple ralls/ rits only the first 3 or so works.
The rest donít work, or the tempo almost stops.

Sometimes I can get them to work but then I must make a mock-up before I exit the program or else any duplicated ralls/ rits are gone.

I have found some solutions online ÖÖÖwhich have not worked  ;D so I have to search some more.

Are you working in Finale? I have found that I sometimes need to place hidden tempo marks in a section with a rit. or rall. to get the tempo to do exactly what I want it to do. Have you tried that?

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Re: Fanfare for an occasion
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2020, 09:22:35 AM »

Art.
Thank you for your suggestion.  :)
Yes, Iím using Finale. I tried what you are suggesting last night at it worked. What I do not understand is why the tempo changes do not work. In this piece I have several ralls. Rall 4 or so and beyond do not work. I tried to copy the rall to new ralls and it worked for a while, but I had to make the sound-file before I exited Finale because once I did that some of the new ralls vanished from the expression choices.
I will continue to do what you suggest.   :)

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Compositions: Wind band, Brass band and Fanfare
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Re: Fanfare for an occasion
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2020, 11:27:08 AM »
Morten,
 
I have also found some annoying anomalies at times in Finale expressions, especially when there are two kinds of expressions used simultaneously.
 
I don't know whether these are bugs or corruptions in the score.
 
Cheers,
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Re: Fanfare for an occasion
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2020, 02:23:57 PM »

I must test tempo alteration some more to see if I can figure it out. Used different tempo markings to get desired effect where rall did not work.

I have updated the score and sound file. I changed the bassline in bar 3, 7, 17 and 21 and I think it sounds much clearer. Some small editing several places and page 15 has been changed a lot.
That page was some how not quite finished. I feel what I did addressed that. It sounds more complete, I think. Haven't done any thing else to the score yet.

Comments and/ or suggestions are appreciated.

Link is in opening post. Same link, just changed the files.

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Compositions: Wind band, Brass band and Fanfare
Platform: Windows 10
Notation: Finale 26
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Instrument: Bassoon, Euphonium
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Re: Fanfare for an occasion
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2020, 03:50:51 PM »
Glad it worked for you. Look in the expression library to see which tempo-altering expressions Finale will respond to. Finale doesn't respond to many tempo-changing expressions that I use. I don't know why. That's why I insert hidden tempo marks to slow or speed up the tempo. Inserting enough of them can smooth the slowing or speeding. If you don't use enough, you won't get a gradual effect.