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whitebark

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Classical Symphony in D Minor
« on: January 23, 2020, 05:54:26 PM »
Updated 4/20/2020 (Tempo increased in first movement. Small revisions in 2nd and 4th movements. New recordings of mvts. 1,2, and 4 using NP 3.1)

Most people on this forum have heard my first Classical Symphony. But I actually wrote a second one around 2015. More so than the first, this piece is backward looking and relentlessly "common practice." Basically it is a huge extended tonal harmony and orchestration exercise. Style is all over the place, ranging from Bach to Wagner, with a bit of modernist leakage occurring here and there. But the piece has a lot of vitality and nice musical moments, so I thought I would introduce it here.  With its four movements totaling 32 minutes , this is the longest piece I have ever written. And its length (among other things) assures that it will never be performed  :).  I wasn't sure that this piece even is suitable for this forum, but it is a slow period, so here goes....

This piece is written for a standard classical orchestra. The energetic first movement follows the usual sonata form.  The calm second movement is a theme and variations. The third movement is a minuet, adapted from an old piece I wrote  around 1995.  The lively final movement also follows the sonata form, and with all the repetition of themes, it also has a rondo-like feel.



I've finished reworking the second movement, and I consider it finished for now.  It is quite different then the the old version.  The 2nd variation is heavily revised, and the 4th variation is deleted completely (replaced by some transitional material). Also, there are numerous small refinements here and there. I thought that the revised movement was going to be shorter, but it somehow grew to nearly 10 minutes.

First Movement (version 7)

Score:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vgx56ama01gkagu/Symphony%20%232%20mvt%201%20v7.pdf?dl=0

Recording:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gyiy592qgfk4ifw/Symphony%20%232%20mvt1%20v7%20.mp3?dl=0

Second Movement (version 7)

Score:
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/t44ejo1s67uztkc/Symphony%20%232%20mvt%202%20v7.pdf?dl=0

Recording :
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/of7wnvmcxsigs3o/Symphony%20%232%20mvt2%20v7.mp3?dl=0

Third Movement:

Score:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/09flh6q5s7u53mo/Symphony%20%232%20mvt3%20v6.pdf?dl=0

Recording:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3dgqu07ifwfq5lv/Symphony%20%232%20mvt3%20v6.mp3?dl=0

Fourth Movement (version 11)

Score:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zvgks777l40pbqz/Symphony%20%232%20mvt4%20v11.pdf?dl=0

Recording:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/elnmcnqrmri543o/Symphony%20%232%20mvt4%20v11.mp3?dl=0


Comments appreciated, of course.

Jay

« Last Edit: April 23, 2020, 09:38:34 PM by whitebark »

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Re: Classical Symphony in D Minor
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2020, 10:44:28 AM »
Finally, I finished revising the third movement of the symphony.  Here it is:

Minuet:

Score:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/09flh6q5s7u53mo/Symphony%20%232%20mvt3%20v6.pdf?dl=0

Recording:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3dgqu07ifwfq5lv/Symphony%20%232%20mvt3%20v6.mp3?dl=0

Cheers!
Jay

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Re: Classical Symphony in D Minor
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2020, 11:06:30 AM »
Lovely writing indeed!  The mid-section reminds of Respighi - ancient airs and dances

Delightfully full of charm ... it can readily stand on its own as a separate work.

I especially enjoyed the interplay between the flute and oboe.  ;D

Mark


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Re: Classical Symphony in D Minor
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2020, 11:25:31 AM »
Glad you liked it, Mark. I had thought that the old version of the minuet was pretty good - until I took a closer look. This version ended up being quite heavily revised.

J

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Re: Classical Symphony in D Minor
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2020, 10:25:54 AM »
Jay,
 
It's quite an amazing piece of music, and you've improved it, if that were possible. By now you must know I'm an admirer.
 
As you say, the style is eclectic. The Minuet is decidedly more modern than the other movements. Overall, I hear Rossini morphing to Prokofiev.
 
You write with fluidity. I'm held by the themes, the interplay of instruments, the variety in rhythms and texture, the sophisticated harmonic language.
 
My only caveat is the length of the second movement, in which that pattern wears a little thin on me, although your variations over it, especially the flute-clarinet section, are inventive.
 
I would love to hear a whole piece by you in the Prokovian (?) harmonic suggestion of the minuet.
 
Cheers,
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Re: Classical Symphony in D Minor
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2020, 03:50:22 PM »
Thanks for your positive comments, Jer  :)  I was out of town for week (fun in the sun in Pheonix), thus the delayed response.

I'm pretty happy with the third movement, now on to revising the fourth!

Jay

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Re: Classical Symphony in D Minor
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2020, 09:17:10 PM »
Finally, I've finished revising the last movement of the symphony.  To bring it to a satisfactory conclusion, I needed a movement that is fast, loud, and gives the violin section a workout.  And this revised version ticks all of the boxes!  Sure, the music sounds more "romantic era" than classical in places, and polychordal modernism leaks here and there, but nobody's perfect.

Now that I've more or less finished with fixing up this old piece, I need to get back to composing in a more modern style.  Just need some inspiration....


Fourth Movement:

Score:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pgsn8b6vfuuaee7/Symphony%20%232%20mvt4%20v7-1.pdf?dl=0

Recording:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2p19izjq36pmjrv/Symphony%20%232%20mvt4%20v7-1.mp3?dl=0

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Re: Classical Symphony in D Minor
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2020, 03:15:11 PM »
Yes, it does tick all those boxes and flows flawlessly as I hear it.  Could it be shorter in duration? I don't know but I never felt like complaining while I listened to it :)

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Re: Classical Symphony in D Minor
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2020, 07:20:25 AM »
Yes, it does tick all those boxes and flows flawlessly as I hear it.  Could it be shorter in duration? I don't know but I never felt like complaining while I listened to it :)

I have to agree here ...... the work is enjoyable; however the recurrent theme after a bit loses it initial punch. 

Mark

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Re: Classical Symphony in D Minor
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2020, 11:17:20 AM »
Reha and Mark,
Thanks for listening. I'm still tinkering with the last movement to add extra punch - as Mark noted, there is still too much simple repetition in the movement.

J

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Re: Classical Symphony in D Minor
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2020, 11:32:19 AM »
I made some further refinements to the last movement, and I am happier with it now...links to the new mp3 and score pdf are listed at the start of this topic.

Time to move on to a new project!

Jay

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Re: Classical Symphony in D Minor
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2020, 04:05:37 PM »
Jay, I can't be sure I remember the earlier version sufficiently to make a precise comparison but I think now the mvt has   more  variety. In any case, it now sounds to me a lovable mvt, nimble, energetic but not too heavy, carrying one idea throughout inventively and playfully with much variation and auxiliary, contrasting sections.

Reha

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Re: Classical Symphony in D Minor
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2020, 08:24:54 PM »
Thanks for listening, Reha  :).  This last movement originally was a crude study in cut-and-paste composition that I recall composing in a matter of days. The form of the piece, a sort of Sonata-Rondo, can use a lot of repeating elements, but the repetition was excessive in the original version. I  reworked this version to reduce the amount of exact repetition by adding and changing musical material, while retaining the rondo feel.

Jay

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Re: Classical Symphony in D Minor
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2020, 02:59:25 AM »
I really like it, I enjoyed all movements, especially the minuet, it's especially lively. The beginning of the second movement kind of make me think of a fugue and I find it very interesting. The orchestration is used to its full potential. Great work.

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Re: Classical Symphony in D Minor
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2020, 12:31:03 PM »
Time to move on to a new project!

Jay

To which I look forward with great anticipation.
 
Cheers,
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