December, 2019: When does a work fail to qualify as "classical music"?

[mjf1947]

Amen~!

Good advice for all.

Mark

[tbmartin]

Amen indeed.

I hate text-only communication, especially where everything is so instant. I've received so much from this forum that "text only" falls in the "better than nothing" category, but with that comes all the other shortcomings of text-only that others have mentioned.

I can only control me. I will continue to participate as time allows, which, alas, isn't much these days. All of you can and will make your own decisions on future involvement. If you decide to leave, know that I appreciate your past contributions and I will miss your ongoing contributions. 

[mjf1947]

I just want to remind members that over the years we have lost members to such squabbles as shown in this thread.

It is indeed unfortunate - however very human - many of our participants in their struggle to compose and secure recognition are very sensitive to perceived slights - intended or not.

That is why is so imperative that we all present our criticism in the most diplomatic manner; yet don't shy away from sharing your suggestions/advice/and understandings.

Let's all try be as helpful to each other and acknowledge our human musical strengths and weaknesses.

My aim as the administrator to make this the forum a constructive as well as joyful place to learn and exchange information.

I belong to other online groups (Oboe) as well.  And yes every once in a blue moon there is an incident which requires correction.

Yet, the enormous knowledge I secure and the wonderful individuals I meet make if such a wonderful encounter.

Where else does a have the opportunity to engage with world class Oboists .... eager to exchange their insights and interesting stories.

This is what we need to strive for at Compose Forums.

So please share our information and seek out new members.  If you are an alumni from a music school ... invite your professors and colleagues.  The more the merrier.

Mark

[Jerry Engelbach]

And of course I welcome any comment on, or discussion of the above thoughts.

Jamie,
 
Thank you for the well-thought-out and very articulate post.
 
It's a welcome reminder that interactions that may play acceptably in personal contact don't necessarily translate accurately to text.
 
A good reason to be a bit careful in one's own expression and to pause before reacting to another's.
 
Cheers,
Jer

[perpetuo studens]

Thanks Jer. I hope I didn’t come off sounding preachy or holier-than-thou. I just want everyone to get along and have fun.

Jamie

[Jerry Engelbach]

Thanks Jer. I hope I didn’t come off sounding preachy or holier-than-thou.

Not at all.
 
It was a comprehensive, direct statement of the fundamental guidelines to a civilized forum.
 
Cheers,
Jer

[sandalwood]

Today, Prof. Belkin posted #20 of his online lessons series "Analysis for Composers".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlQoy5EuSS0

This lesson is titled "A Checklist for Musical Quality" and may have some bearing on our topic.

[Patrick O'Keefe]

This lesson is titled "A Checklist for Musical Quality" and may have some bearing on our topic.

I find it a bit humbling to apply the checklist to my music.  The term "arbitrary" keeps popping up.

[mjf1947]

Thanks for sharing .... a very fine resource indeed~!

Mark

[Jerry Engelbach]

Nice. Thanks you.
 
Belkin's Analysis series is invaluable.
 
Cheers,
Jer