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mjf1947

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El Circo de Ninos
« on: October 04, 2018, 01:17:34 PM »
Hi,

It's been a few months since I posted .....  :'( so.

I went back to work on my circus project.   I did some work on the first movement.  :o

Some feedback would be nice.  ;D

This is a work in progress.  There are 2 more sections and a return to the opening theme.

Mark

PS: Please don't comment on engraving issues as yet.  :-X
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Re: El Circo de Ninos
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2018, 06:36:37 AM »
Mark, your piece reminds me of Rota/Fellini musics and I look forward to seeing whether you'll develop it  in that manner with plenty of whim and variation or in a more solemn concert piece fashion.

Very nice start, IMO :)

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Re: El Circo de Ninos
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2018, 09:08:10 PM »
Mark, that is a nice start for your Circo de Ninos piece...it has a carnival flavor to be sure. I'm looking forward to hearing the rest of the work.

-Jay

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Re: El Circo de Ninos
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2018, 06:09:46 AM »
Nice.

I like that while on one level it does invoke the images of a carnival-like atmosphere, the slippery chromatics imply (at least to me) that something else might potentially be going on.


I look forward to more of the piece.
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Re: El Circo de Ninos
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2018, 08:59:01 AM »
Yup, nice carnival flavor, Mark! There is great potential to develop this piece in a lot of ways. Where do you intend to go with it? One suggestion--I think the piece drags a bit, so make the tempo faster--you could make the 3/4 section not in three, but almost in one.

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Re: El Circo de Ninos
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2018, 10:58:25 AM »
Thank you all for your encouraging remarks and helpful suggestions.  ;D

I am now working through/ (struggling a bit) with the next section. 

In this section I want to create a feeling of large animals/crowds .... and running clowns and acrobats all moving along.

The section that comes later ... some pretty dancing girls.  :angel:

Not easy at all.  :-\   A slow go! 

Mark

PS: Art,  I increased the tempo to quarter=132.  I might push it a bit more.
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Re: El Circo de Ninos
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2018, 11:00:27 AM »
Mark,
 
As you were writing that post I was writing one asking where you were going to go from there.
 
Great theme.
 
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Re: El Circo de Ninos
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2018, 11:43:19 AM »
What a fun piece!  Nostalgia for the Calliope.  As others, look forward to hearing more.  thanks, LA

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Re: El Circo de Ninos
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2018, 08:27:49 PM »
A fun an interesting piece.  Lot's of potential.  I agree with Arthur about the slight dragging feel.  Increasing the tempo or maybe some articulation changes - short repeated notes.  (But that might ruin the calliope sound.)

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Re: El Circo de Ninos
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2018, 02:46:48 PM »
Okay for all thse following this thread.

He is an additional section .... which is more complete.

I also attached the beginning so you can feel the transition.

Please ignore engraving issues at this point in the project.

Of course any blatant errors ... feel free to point them out.

Once again I am trying to create a atmosphere ...

Please note the few measures at the end will be the transition to the third section "Dancing Girls"  :o

Hope you enjoy the work.

All suggestions/advice always welcome.

Mark
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Re: El Circo de Ninos
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2018, 12:28:34 PM »
for the opening of the 1st piece, it would be better if you split up the woodwind material between the various pairs of instruments, rather than have them all doubling unison each pair. for example, the clarinets are doubling low, but they CAN play much higher than that, so why not have one clarinet do the 2nd flute part? or one of the oboe parts? have the oboe double the flute?
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Re: El Circo de Ninos
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2018, 05:53:49 PM »
The second section features some nice orchestral textures.  What are you trying to evoke in this movement?

jay

Jay ...actually I am interested in your perceptions of the 2nd movement.  What does it evoke in your imagination?

I am working on the third and final sections of the composition as well as shoring up the presented sections.

I'll give a complete synopsis of the work when I post it in the completed junior work section - in a few weeks.

Thanks for your interest.  ;D

Mark
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Re: El Circo de Ninos
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2018, 03:54:50 PM »
For those interested and following this thread.

Here's the first completed draft of the work.

This is still a work in progress.   :angel:

Please excuse engraving and minor errors in notation etc.

I hope you enjoy the "romp" of the circus.  If you smile at the end .... I have succeeded~!  ;D

I increased the tempi which gives the piece greater forward momentum.

Mark
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Re: El Circo de Ninos
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2018, 01:33:35 PM »
Mark,
 
Marvelous work.
 
The contrasting themes, the different instrumental textures, the syncopations — all grabbed me.
 
I wonder about the title. It doesn't suggest children to me, but something just a bit bizarre, like a clown with evil behind the smile.
 
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Re: El Circo de Ninos
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2018, 04:36:12 PM »
Mark, I enjoyed listening to your complete work. It certainly has a circus -like flavor with all the marching, crashing  percussion. There is a  childlike atmosphere that is created by the short, repeated nursery rhyme-like melodic fragments. I like the off-kilter rhythms and it doesn't evoke any evil clown feeling, at least for me. You might lighten up the textures in some spots - the orchestration seems a bit heavy. Perhaps add some melodic, lightly harmonized interludes? The Arabian dance segment is one section that is lightly orchestrated and stands out in that way. Think "Peter and the Wolf" , the ultimate children's musical work, or "The Nutcracker".

Jay