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AO

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April
« on: April 01, 2017, 06:21:35 PM »
I had this idea of writing a little  something for every month this year, not that it has anything to do with the seasons or astrology or anything, just something to help keep track of ideas. I got a head start on April and thought I'd share it. I did do something for March but that just might sink into the abyss.  Cheers.

https://app.box.com/s/1znnt6dfo2oc09lo57s2bcd26iakbmth
« Last Edit: April 09, 2017, 05:26:09 PM by AO »

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Re: April
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2017, 05:10:09 AM »
Can you post a score please?
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Re: April
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2017, 08:28:09 AM »
Added my default playback score.

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Re: April
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2017, 06:10:24 AM »
Arthur: Sorry to say, not my cup of tea overall on this one. The piece seems too thinly orchestrated, and I didn't see any overall structure or "glue." Elements seemed random to me. However, this wouldn't be the first time I've missed structure in pieces that just aren't in styles I prefer. I did like the lines you wrote for various instruments--those were very playable.

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Re: April
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2017, 12:51:48 PM »
Thanks for you honest feedback Arthur, my wife and kids and most of my friends would agree with your assessment but they quit listening to my stuff long ago, like I used to say in my rock and roll days “we’ve had a few requests during our break  but we’re going to keep playing anyway.” :)
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Re: April
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2017, 01:47:10 PM »
I enjoyed all the "special effects" you achieved with your electronic orchestra - that string glissando was great.  How did you do that with your software? There were some beautiful harmonies and orchestral colorations ,too.  Like gogreen, I did not perceive  an overall structure to your piece.

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Re: April
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2017, 10:58:28 AM »
Thanks for your input Jay,  as I remember from some of your posts that you are a Sibelius user? not quite sure I know what you mean about "electronic orchestra"  I use Finale25 with Garritan, GPO5 the effect is created by Finale's glissando tool. That's the extent of my midi/electronic knowledge, if there's not a button for it on my screen, it just flies right over my head.
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Re: April
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2017, 11:21:08 AM »
AO,

I'll have to check if Sibelius can do a glissando as easily as Finale+Garritan.  Not that I need a glissando in any of my pieces, but it is an interesting effect.

I'm no Sibelius power user - I just use it in combination with NotePerformer to create sound renditions of my scores, which are composed using Musescore.

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Re: April
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2017, 07:39:39 AM »
a quick orchestration note: page 4, that horn part would be better served as a trombone part. yes, the horn can play it. it doesn't mean it's the best choice there.

A lot of the woodwind writing is very low in the register, not always the best effect, particularly for flute or oboe.

When writing for an instrument, think of its "ideal range". The ideal does NOT include the extremities, neither top nor bottom. So if you write within that ideal range you will always have some leeway for those times when your melodic material really HAS to reach into the extremities.

The orchestration IS very sparse, so far it's not justifying the size of the orchestra.
However, unlike others, I can say that I do like some of the musical ideas and textures. now the thing is what are you going to DO with that material.

There are a few moments that are a bit too diatonic for the rest of the material. Notably a rising section with the two clarinets. be careful when writing something that is clearly not tonal.. the moment you drop in a passage that is easily read as being "in a key" you HAVE to justify it somehow. It has to make sense in the context.
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Re: April
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2017, 10:54:35 AM »
The basic material is interesting and I like most of it, but, as Michel said, the crux of the matter is what do you do with this basic material. Where do you go with it? For example, with further development you can justify the use of all of the instruments you've included. I would like to see an expanded/extended iteration of the piece, as I think the basic material justifies it.
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Re: April
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2017, 09:09:28 AM »
This is the latest sound file and score for this piece, I couldn't find any glue but did come up with a big roll on duct tape.

https://app.box.com/s/ukwd11crujkdh9fdwiegb9zsc9phu17g     MP3

https://app.box.com/s/aigv6q4r41adhf2nkc3lb4jdb092v7pa       Score

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Re: April
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2017, 10:07:00 AM »
The basic material is interesting and I like most of it, but, as Michel said, the crux of the matter is what do you do with this basic material. Where do you go with it? For example, with further development you can justify the use of all of the instruments you've included. I would like to see an expanded/extended iteration of the piece, as I think the basic material justifies it.

Same here :)  Many interesting textures, colors and ideas.


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Re: April
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2017, 10:40:13 AM »
AO,

I am curious to know your vision for this work.  Did you have a theme, image, context in mind?

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