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Michel.R.E

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Re: Sinfonietta #2 in G Minor
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2017, 09:52:32 AM »
A quick correction for your score.
Piccolo parts are always played by the 2nd flute. (with some very rare exceptions which really fall outside of standard usage)
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Re: Sinfonietta #2 in G Minor
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2017, 06:17:49 PM »
Thanks for taking a look at the score, Michel!  I'll fix that piccolo thing eventually.

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Re: Sinfonietta #2 in G Minor
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2017, 09:02:15 AM »
Jay, I've only had time to listen to the 1st movement so far but it is quite impressive. I agree with and support Michel's comments particularly regarding the orchestration. The material could be presented more effectively by tweaking the orchestration. I look forward to hearing the 2nd movement when I have the time to listen.
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Re: Sinfonietta #2 in G Minor
« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2017, 10:14:51 PM »
I finally finished  a draft of the third and last movement.  See my first post at the start of the topic for the mp3 link.

The movement is roughly structured as a rondo with the form ABACABA.  Leading to the A section is a noisy introduction. The A section is a lively folksy melody.   A different melody, also folksy forms the B section.  The C section is a fugato.  The next A section is a straight repeat.  The next B section is a loud variation like a demented mariachi band. I had just listened to Marquez's Danzon #2 when I composed the section- maybe it shows! This leads to the final A section, which is much different, slower and even melancholic, with the long chords similar to those used in the first movement. The movement concludes with a lively coda.
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Re: Sinfonietta #2 in G Minor
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2017, 04:56:35 AM »
I enjoyed listening to this lively, cheerful mvt and it is a pleasant surprise to hear folk material from Caucasus used nicely to that effect.

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Re: Sinfonietta #2 in G Minor
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2017, 10:00:24 AM »
Thanks for listening.  I was aware of the folksy, modal character of the melodies, but didn't know I was borrowing material from the Caucasus region! Then again, someone thought that the last movement of my first Sinfonietta (not posted here, maybe I will introduce it sometime) sounded a bit like the music of Aram Khachaturian.

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Re: Sinfonietta #2 in G Minor
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2017, 03:42:40 PM »
Oh, the Khachatrian thing added it seems you have some inclination/gift to invent Caucasian sounding melodies/rhythms. Anyway, I did enjoy listening to this colorful mvt  and incidentally I'm fond of both the Caucasus tunes and Khachatrian (and Danzon2 ) :)

Here is a song from Caucasus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKgvFr85_mk

to clarify why I first thought you worked on some folk material.
 
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Re: Sinfonietta #2 in G Minor
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2017, 05:25:53 PM »
Wow, that Caucasian song is wild. I could add that singer for my sinfonietta ... well perhaps not :).   One way I create my melodies is by starting with a simple, more or less diatonic version then changing some notes to give it a more modal and interesting flavor...and sometimes an accidental Caucasian flavor.  There is a quote from Beethoven's 8th symphony..did you catch that?

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Re: Sinfonietta #2 in G Minor
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2017, 07:32:51 PM »
Yes the singer is a merry soul with the right silhouette for his operatic singing :)

The quote, is it the oboe at m. 262? I have a very weak familiarity with the repertoire; very few I can recognize, some may sound familiar but difficult to locate.  I wished I had a better command so that I could better appreciate references and other gems and subtleties in people's music.

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Re: Sinfonietta #2 in G Minor
« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2017, 10:34:17 AM »
Yes, that's where the Beethoven quote is. 
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