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Title: Concerto Grosso opus 48, complete
Post by: Michel.R.E on February 10, 2019, 10:44:31 PM
So, I've already posted the recording of the 3rd reading of the 1st movement (badly recorded, live, by me while sitting in the hall during rehearsals before the recording session), then a preliminary version of the slow middle movement, and now the complete concerto for string quartet and string orchestra.

So three movements (the titles are a bit different from the score, I'm in the process of finishing  some detail work, which includes settling on the final titles for each movement)

1 - Ouverture (http://www.dosblanc.ca/music/concerto_grosso/Concerto_grosso_prise_3.mp3)

2 - Arioso (http://www.dosblanc.ca/music/concerto_grosso/02_concerto_grosso.mp3)

3 - Gigue (http://www.dosblanc.ca/music/concerto_grosso/03_concerto_grosso.mp3)

The first movement is a simple binary, baroque-style Overture, two contrasting themes.
The Arioso is a ternary form, short contrasting middle section.
And the finale is a contrapuntal Gigue in 12/8, which has a loose rondo structure.
My goal was to create something festive which also hearkened back to the origins of the commissioning ensembles, which started with performances of Baroque music. I contrast that with the more "modern" elements (like the piling-on of 4ths and 5ths in the opening movement, or the modulations by 3rds in the last movement).

The harmony is a mixture of tonal, quartal, and tertiary harmony, with a dash of poly-harmony thrown in for spice. There are a few spots with some Debussy-an non-functional 9th chords, notably in the middle movement.
Title: Re: Concerto Grosso opus 48, complete
Post by: Jerry Engelbach on February 11, 2019, 08:37:16 AM
Michel,
 
Nice logo.
 
Beautiful, complex music. It feels like a cloud of gently turbulent textures, expanding, contracting.
 
Your musical language is becoming quite familiar to me. There are hints of Debussy, and even Mercury from Holst's The Planets. But it doesn't sound like something actually written by them.
 
Cheers,
Jer
Title: Re: Concerto Grosso opus 48, complete
Post by: Michel.R.E on February 11, 2019, 08:48:09 AM
Thank-you jer :-)

I rather like that "cloud of gently turbulent textures" description.
It's actually a large part of what I seek, and use. In a sense, it's my tonal take on Ligeti's cluster world.
Title: Re: Concerto Grosso opus 48, complete
Post by: sandalwood on February 11, 2019, 09:18:24 AM
Congratulations Michel! My favorite is the 1st mvt. I humbly think it is a jewel!

I'm fond of many of the French style ouvertures to Baroque orchestral suites. This is very modern and different in a thousand ways but I still like to think it bears some remote consanguinity.
Title: Re: Concerto Grosso opus 48, complete
Post by: Michel.R.E on February 11, 2019, 09:26:09 AM
Thank-you Reha.
I had originally planned on a brief "à la française" opening to the 1st movement, to really rub in that whole "french suite" aspect. Somehow, I just couldn't get it to work. So the stacked 4ths/5ths ended up having to do instead.
Title: Re: Concerto Grosso opus 48, complete
Post by: mjf1947 on February 11, 2019, 02:50:17 PM
Well Michel.................

The Gigue is delightful.  It is so reminiscent of the colors of so many composers.

Just to name a few Vaughn Williams and  Korngold.

But this is you ........ and definitely has your signature style.

I love it's light hearted positive vibe and flows effortlessly~!

Mark

Once again I really enjoyed the use of a strategic placement of Pizz. in your works.

Title: Re: Concerto Grosso opus 48, complete
Post by: whitebark on February 11, 2019, 03:26:17 PM
Congratulations on the completion of the Concerto Grosso!  I'm looking forward to hearing the orchestra play the entire work.

The Gigue provides a light and lively finish to the piece. I'm sure that the bass players will have fun playing the fast détaché runs, especially because they are independent from the cello part.  Time for the basses to show off a bit!

-Jay
Title: Re: Concerto Grosso opus 48, complete
Post by: Michel.R.E on February 11, 2019, 03:28:32 PM
Thanks Jay :)

If I had had a bit more leeway on the length, I would have liked to include a passage for the quartet with a contrabass solo. There simply wasn't time to make it sound integral enough. It ended up coming out a bit too episodic so I had to forgo that idea.
Title: Re: Concerto Grosso opus 48, complete
Post by: Patrick O'Keefe on February 11, 2019, 03:44:47 PM
The jib brings the work to a wonderful conclusion.  Congratulations!
Title: Re: Concerto Grosso opus 48, complete
Post by: Michel.R.E on February 11, 2019, 06:50:01 PM
Thank-you Patrick.
I have to say I have a particular fondness for that gigue.
Title: Re: Concerto Grosso opus 48, complete
Post by: RJB54 on February 13, 2019, 03:40:56 PM
Very sprightly finale. A good conclusion to the piece. I don't have time to listen to the whole composition right now but I am looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Concerto Grosso opus 48, complete
Post by: Michel.R.E on February 13, 2019, 03:56:55 PM
I got the recording of the 1st movement that will end up on the CD... it. sounds. AMAZING!!!!!
Title: Re: Concerto Grosso opus 48, complete
Post by: sandalwood on February 13, 2019, 04:04:01 PM
Excellent news! Will the CD be available on amazon, etc?
Title: Re: Concerto Grosso opus 48, complete
Post by: Michel.R.E on February 13, 2019, 05:05:48 PM
I don't know where the CD will be available yet. It MIGHT be only locally, I doubt they are making a huge pressing of it this year. I'm going to listen to it a few times more to see how I feel about it (who am I kidding, I'm going to listen to it because it sounds AWESOME!!!).
Title: Re: Concerto Grosso opus 48, complete
Post by: sandalwood on February 13, 2019, 06:29:36 PM
I hope some day we can listen to it, too :)
Title: Re: Concerto Grosso opus 48, complete
Post by: Michel.R.E on February 16, 2019, 11:30:29 AM
The Gigue is delightful. 
I love it's light hearted positive vibe and flows effortlessly~!

Mark

Once again I really enjoyed the use of a strategic placement of Pizz. in your works.

Thank-you, sorry I didn't respond personally.

I really was going for a happy, positive, upbeat finale. The concerto should probably have had a title like "Concerto di celebrazione" or something.
Glad you enjoyed the pizz :-)
I like the slightly syncopated "3 quarters in the space of 2 dotted wuarters" pizzes.
Title: Re: Concerto Grosso opus 48, complete
Post by: Michel.R.E on March 01, 2019, 02:00:50 PM
I'll be reposting audio for the 2nd and 3rd movements.
I've finally gotten around to making a Finale playback file using my better sample libraries (XSample and the two solo string libraries by Garritan: solo Strad and solo Gofriller).

give me a few hours it should be up later today. and it sounds MUCH better... with one minor exception: I can't get my solo instruments to play back fingered tremolos without hiccups and accents in the playback. So I've had to reduce those sections to just held notes covering the musical space that was supposed to be covered by the tremolo.
Title: Re: Concerto Grosso opus 48, complete
Post by: RJB54 on March 01, 2019, 04:57:03 PM
...I can't get my solo instruments to play back fingered tremolos without hiccups and accents in the playback.
I also could never get the fingered tremolos to work properly so I just never use them even in places I would like to.

I also have problems sometimes with trills. If I have notated a trill on multiple notes which are tied together, sometimes Finale will play the trill properly on the first note (I.E., playing the main note and the trill note (the note a half or full step higher, as appropriate)), but then on the second note it will play the first trill note instead of the main note and the note a half of full step higher (as appropriate) of the trill note). I can't figure out why or how to stop Finale from doing it so I just post the music with Finale's mistake.
Title: Re: Concerto Grosso opus 48, complete
Post by: Michel.R.E on March 01, 2019, 06:55:32 PM
so far I've had no real playback issues with Finale 25, but to use my better-sounding libraries (like the Strad and Gofriller) I have to go back to Finale 2012. And THAT version of Finale had a lot of playback issues (for me).
Title: Re: Concerto Grosso opus 48, complete
Post by: Michel.R.E on March 02, 2019, 01:57:59 PM
I've updated the 2nd and 3rd movement recordings.
They now use the solo Strad and Gofriller libraries, as well as XSamples for the solo string sections in the orchestra.

Still not perfect, but then, nothing compares to hearing the live orchestra play it.
Title: Re: Concerto Grosso opus 48, complete
Post by: Michel.R.E on March 03, 2019, 07:10:14 AM
Listening to the recording for the CD  makes me notice something interesting: it's a VERY small string section, but produces a VERY big sound.

Take away the solo quartet and you have four 1st violins, four 2nd violins, three violas, three cellos, and the two contrabasses.

It's truly amazing what a good, solid, small group can accomplish.
Title: Re: Concerto Grosso opus 48, complete
Post by: Jamie Kowalski on March 07, 2019, 06:25:16 AM
Quite beautiful, Michel!
Title: Re: Concerto Grosso opus 48, complete
Post by: Michel.R.E on March 07, 2019, 06:26:08 AM
Thank-you Jamie  :)
Title: Re: Concerto Grosso opus 48, complete
Post by: Michel.R.E on April 22, 2019, 10:52:12 AM
Today was the 1st rehearsal of the Concerto Grosso with the orchestra and soloists. It was basically sight-reading. There were a number of musicians that were absent, so there were replacement players who hadn't participated in the recording of the 1st movement.

I sounded pretty good! The slow movement sounded even better than I could have hoped for.

The conductor took the Gigue a bit faster than I originally intended, but it works that way too. Makes it considerably more "nervous" and frenetic. Good energy.
Title: Re: Concerto Grosso opus 48, complete
Post by: RJB54 on April 23, 2019, 06:24:31 AM
Very good! Congratulations on the good performance.
Title: Re: Concerto Grosso opus 48, complete
Post by: whitebark on April 23, 2019, 11:46:39 AM
I'm glad to hear that the rehearsal went well.  Looking forward to hearing the CD recording of the performance!

Jay