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Exercises / Re: Pitch Class Sets
« Last post by Jerry Engelbach on Today at 02:45:48 PM »
Whew, that's a tough one, Jay. Nice exercise.
 
You managed to get in 11 of 12 pitch classes. Why not go the extra measure and include "D"?
 
Cheers,
Jer
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Exercises / Pitch Class Sets
« Last post by whitebark on Today at 12:14:53 PM »
A Pitch Class Set is a generalization of the idea of a chord, expanding it to include all octave transpositions and inversions. Tables of PC Sets provide an efficient way to classify chords of all types in a clear and efficient way.  Composers find PC Sets useful because using notes within a PC Set can give the resulting music a distinct sound.  For a good intro on PC Sets, be sure to watch Alan Belkin's Youtube videos on the topic (Modern Harmony 8b).

For this exercise, write a short work (16 measures or so) using a small PC Set, one with a "normal form" of 3 or 4 notes.

Here's my exercise using a 4 note PC Set with a Forte Number 4-16:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dipy1o8kja9vuc6/Pitch%20Class%20Set%20Exercise.mp3?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/746qr3d1jjo2riz/Pitch%20Class%20Set%20Exercise.pdf?dl=0

In my example score, I have indicated the lowest note of the transposed Normal Form used in various spots in the music. This note is not necessarily the root note of the associated chord.

Have Fun!
Jay
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Thanks for the kind words, but I sort of hoped to hear genuine criticism on anything at all on any aspect of this piece. After all it is one of my first compositions...
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Completed Works: Junior / Re: Snoqualmie Mist for Strings
« Last post by Jerry Engelbach on December 13, 2017, 05:07:25 PM »
I tear my hair out trying to balance the sound of the various instruments in GPO5.

I've given up trying. I just don't get it. I find the documentation in this area to be worthless. I just put the markings in the music and just go with whatever Finale generates from that.
Finale documentation has always been poor. Glad (in a warped way) to know I'm not the only sufferer.
 
Cheers,
Jer
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Works in Progress: Junior / Re: Old Lullaby Revisited
« Last post by sandalwood on December 13, 2017, 03:32:03 PM »
To echo what others have said:  That is a truly beautiful work.

I do agree with Jay, though.  I find a return to earlier material gives a satisfying feeling of completion in music; it might be a nice touch in your piece.   That, of course, can be made difficult if the text dictates another path.

Thanks a lot for the kind remark, Pat! I'm glad you liked the piece.

I do feel really sorry, on the other hand, that you have to kindly warn me on the issue of form each time I post a piece :) I guess it is time I start to consider playing by the book

Thank you for the feedback, Pat!

UPDATE: score (@ Reply #15) renewed,  with hairpins at the  last bar added and a couple of enharmonics corrected.
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Works in Progress: Junior / Re: Old Lullaby Revisited
« Last post by sandalwood on December 13, 2017, 03:14:41 PM »
A beautiful piece with impeccable part-writing, Reha.   The msuic seems to do a long fade toward the end - perhaps you could restate an initial section to create a stronger and more satisfying close. The tried and true ABA structure is always a good way to go.

Jay

Thanks for the kind words, Jay! Flattered to hear you liked the part-writing. A good part of it remains intact from 2012 and after all the embarrassing overlooked consecutives, etc (I'm grateful for the remarks pointing to such errors, by the way) it is refreshing to hear there is a positive side to it, as well.

As to form,  you've put your finger where it aches. The original lullaby relied on three repeats of a "refrain" (corresponding to the passage mm.15-19  in the posted revised lullaby) to hold it together. Abridging the original during the revision, I agonizingly decided to remove, among other passages, the repeats and  hesitantly chose to rely on the  self-unfolding continuity of  the long melody line ...an optimistic confidence (actually I was neither optimistic, nor confident)   in the adequacy of the  strength of a "grande ligne".  First, I was intending to close the piece with one repeat of that passage (and a very short coda), then gradually the novel concept of mimicking the transition to sleep, instead, gained  over. Hence the shaking of the tonal ground first, to signify blurring of the mind, followed by cadential gestures with a  rapid decline in tempo and finally a forever descending bass line, descant etc to "describe" the ultimate slide. That these could still be done with an A' section, as well, did cross my mind and bothered me a lot but perhaps I took the easier way or perhaps the riskier, saucier way.

Thanks a lot for the very apt remark! You are, of course, right about the safety of the ternary. Feedback taken and appreciated. Sorry for the long and whining reply :)
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Works in Progress: Junior / Re: Old Lullaby Revisited
« Last post by Patrick O'Keefe on December 13, 2017, 02:19:57 PM »
To echo what others have said:  That is a truly beautiful work.

I do agree with Jay, though.  I find a return to earlier material gives a satisfying feeling of completion in music; it might be a nice touch in your piece.   That, of course, can be made difficult if the text dictates another path.
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Works in Progress: Junior / Re: Old Lullaby Revisited
« Last post by whitebark on December 12, 2017, 08:34:32 PM »
A beautiful piece with impeccable part-writing, Reha.   The msuic seems to do a long fade toward the end - perhaps you could restate an initial section to create a stronger and more satisfying close. The tried and true ABA structure is always a good way to go.

Jay

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Completed Works: Junior / Re: Snoqualmie Mist for Strings
« Last post by RJB54 on December 12, 2017, 02:49:31 PM »
I tear my hair out trying to balance the sound of the various instruments in GPO5.

I've given up trying. I just don't get it. I find the documentation in this area to be worthless. I just put the markings in the music and just go with whatever Finale generates from that.
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Works in Progress: Junior / Re: Old Lullaby Revisited
« Last post by sandalwood on December 12, 2017, 01:43:21 PM »
Thanks a lot for looking, Jer! I infer it does not exceed the limits of an admissible quotation, at the very least.

Still tempted to ask for forgiveness :)
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