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Jamie Kowalski

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Pretzel for piano
« on: December 06, 2017, 04:08:08 PM »
Hi all,

Just coming out of my long bout with depression and writer's block. This is a little piece to ease my way back into more "serious" things. It's also my first outing with the Garritan Yamaha CFX piano library.

Pretzel score | mp3

Comments and questions welcome.

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Re: Pretzel for piano
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2017, 04:34:38 PM »
Thanks for sharing this Jamie. Good to see/hear you writing again. Odd, but I am working on something where there are mixed duples and triplets as well.
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Re: Pretzel for piano
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2017, 05:51:05 PM »
Interesting piece. I enjoyed it.
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Re: Pretzel for piano
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2017, 06:11:28 PM »
Thank you both for the kind words.

Ron, Iíve always had a fascination with 2vs3, and I explore it in so many of my works. This is probably the first time Iíve given a lot of play to 3vs4.

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Re: Pretzel for piano
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2017, 06:08:04 AM »
Yes, very interesting! Definitely high in signal to noise :). I enjoyed this, too.

...and nice to hear from you again Kowalski.

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Re: Pretzel for piano
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2017, 06:38:04 AM »
Thank you, Sandalwood

Definitely high in signal to noise :).
Do you mean the recording, or is this somehow a reference to the music? I'm quite happy with the library, and I haven't even tried half of the settings or presets yet!

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Re: Pretzel for piano
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2017, 06:46:30 AM »
Sorry for being obscure. I meant you say much with not too many notes :)

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Re: Pretzel for piano
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2017, 06:49:40 AM »
Sorry for being obscure. I meant you say much with not too many notes :)

Ah! Thanks, I like that meaning much better! :)

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Re: Pretzel for piano
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2017, 09:46:51 AM »
Great fun. I enjoyed the playfulness of your mixed rhythms.
 
As in much of the music I've heard on your web site, it uses surprise effectively.
 
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Re: Pretzel for piano
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2017, 10:28:04 AM »
Delightful! 

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Re: Pretzel for piano
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2017, 02:07:01 PM »
a lovely piece from you, as always. I always enjoy hearing where you take your material and how you handle your usually pointillist material... and was very surprised to see far less of that approach in this piece.

The transitions from eighths to triples to 16ths are fascinating and a very interesting way of creating the illusion of rit/accel.

I particularly liked the tiny bit of quartal harmony that popped up near the end (being a huge fan of quartal harmony, I would have actually liked a bit more of it elsewhere, but that's just my personal taste).

However, there's one thing that did jump out at me... measure 65, those parallel octaves... *shivers*
They grated on my ear like the wrongest of wrong notes.

Measures 14-16 are a bit cluttered (notation), but I simply can't find another solution than the relatively standard one you used. But that's nothing major.

Any plans on turning this into a suite of piano pieces? a "book 1" of piano preludes by Kowalski?
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Re: Pretzel for piano
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2017, 05:22:55 PM »
Thank you Whitebark and Michel.

a lovely piece from you, as always. I always enjoy hearing where you take your material and how you handle your usually pointillist material... and was very surprised to see far less of that approach in this piece.
I think that may be one of the main differences between my orchestral and most of my piano pieces. I have no explanation... just the way it goes. :)

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However, there's one thing that did jump out at me... measure 65, those parallel octaves... *shivers*
They grated on my ear like the wrongest of wrong notes.
Do you mean the A to D jump? It's interesting that you hear it that way. The passage is really two voices, and the bottom drops to F# (probably not prominent enough in the recording in any case). The lower of the two Ds is just a voice doubling of the upper line. I guess I'll listen to it a few more times to try to hear it as wrong.

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Measures 14-16 are a bit cluttered (notation), but I simply can't find another solution than the relatively standard one you used.
Yes, very difficult engraving there and at measures 19-23. I posted that passage asking for input from the music engraving group on FB, and sadly that was the cleanest approach several minds could manage.

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Any plans on turning this into a suite of piano pieces? a "book 1" of piano preludes by Kowalski?
I see this as a companion piece to "Eddies," which I posted here some time ago. Originally, there was going to be a suite called "Waterforms," but I'm going to have to change the name, as the other water themed pieces I was working on didn't pan out. I could definitely add to these two pieces to get a whole new suite... keeping an open mind to that, but I'll be turning most of my attention towards the opera for now.

Thanks again.