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Completed Works: Senior / Re: Suite for Small Chamber Orchestra
« Last post by Ron on Yesterday at 01:16:02 PM »
...,and the other 4 movements.

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Completed Works: Senior / Suite for Small Chamber Orchestra
« Last post by Ron on Yesterday at 01:14:17 PM »
This is a 2-part post because I am limited to only 4 attachments per and I have 8. Sorry about the state of the PDF. I used Finale's tool to merge all the movements into one document and then spent several hours fixing up the score to get rid of collisions, etc. I made a PDF and everything blew up--moving headings to the wrong page, inserting huge numbers of empty measures, etc. So, I did a quick and dirty merge just to get something up. I will clean it up.



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Basic Harmony and Counterpoint / Re: Parallel octaves vs doubling
« Last post by Patrick O'Keefe on October 14, 2018, 07:33:36 PM »
Ah.  I had completely missed that "for two notes only" part.  (That probably can be blamed on my lack of formal music education.  Years with a private tutor, but I missed that bit.)   And counter examples I thought up were thwarted by that starting separate but moving into parallelism that you show.  And I admit that your example does indeed sound "wrong" even when the range and timbre differences prevent the actual disappearance of a voice.  It sounds less problematic when repeated over and over as a kind of ostinato - maybe because voice leading isn't an issue there, or maybe because the repetition indicates that a disappearing voice is the desired effect rather than a mistake.   
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Basic Harmony and Counterpoint / Re: Parallel octaves vs doubling
« Last post by Ron on October 14, 2018, 05:30:04 PM »
The "parallel octave rule" applies when a parallel octave appears for two notes only. It sounds like a mistake, as one voice disappears into the other and then reappears. Extended doubled passages do not break this rule, as they sound deliberate. "Rules" like this are about acoustic reality. So, F/A -> B/B -> A/A -> C/E sounds like a mistake; whereas A/A -> E/E -> F/F -> G/G sounds like the composer meant to do that.
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Basic Harmony and Counterpoint / Parallel octaves vs doubling
« Last post by Patrick O'Keefe on October 14, 2018, 04:04:20 PM »
Every once in a while I decide to paint a target on my back and bring up a topic that should have been long settled, but that I still need convincing.

A short time ago Michel mentioned that parallel octaves are always inappropriate.   I immediately thought of Ron's "Rules?  What rules?".  And I immediately thought of a piece I'm working on.  In it, as the principal theme of a rondo, two voices start in octave doubling , stay in parallel for a few bars, but then move away from each other and harmonize for a few bars.  This pattern repeats a couple times with different lengths of the doubling/harmonizing scheme.

The two voices have distinctive timbre and range - vibraphone and bassoon - so they never loose their identities; the doubling never really blends into a single sound - no more than a soprano and bass singing in "unison" sound like one voice.  In other words, they are playing in parallel until they go their separate ways.

I am asking to be convinced I've done wrong, but I'm not anticipating success in the endeavor.
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Chit Chat / Re: Finale 2018 upgrade
« Last post by AO on October 14, 2018, 02:41:25 PM »
Thanks guys, I almost purchased last night because I'm a real sucker for this stuff but I think I'll give it a good amount of time before I actually do buy it.
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Chit Chat / Re: Finale 2018 upgrade
« Last post by gogreen on October 14, 2018, 06:43:29 AM »
I've tried the 30-day trial. In Finale 25 in High Sierra and my Brother MFC-L2740DW printer, Finale did not print black--it was about 70% gray scale. This bug has not been fixed in Finale 26. There are also new problems in the FinaleScripts I've created that worked fine in Finale 25.5, so I won't be upgrading. From what I can tell, Finale 26 was not FULLY tested in Mojave, and there are many bugs. I no longer work in Windows, so I cannot say how Finale 26 works for those in a Windows environment.
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Compositions / Re: Brassbandpiece
« Last post by Jerry Engelbach on October 14, 2018, 12:39:40 AM »
It's an interesting fanfare with much promise.
 
It feels a little heavy in the instrumention. Perhaps take more advantage of separate groupings?
 
Are you familiar with Walton's Crown Imperial? It's a good model.
 
Your solo cornet mysteriously metamorphs into three and then two cornets ...
 
Cheers,
Jer
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Chit Chat / Re: Finale 2018 upgrade
« Last post by Jerry Engelbach on October 14, 2018, 12:33:39 AM »
I would have to upgrade my Mac from El Capitan to Sierra to use it.
 
I'm wary of system upgrades, as they always create problems.
 
However, I'm interested in using Note Performer, for which Finale 26 has fixed the input latency.
 
Perhaps if I wait for Finale 27 they'll also have fixed the output discrepancy so the scroll line matches the playback.
 
It'll probably cost the same, so I'll get more for the money.
 
Cheers,
Jer
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Chit Chat / Re: Finale 2018 upgrade
« Last post by Ron on October 13, 2018, 08:10:04 PM »
From what I have seen, I don't see any reason the upgrade. Minor fixes are not worth the money.
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