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Orchestration / Re: Composing for Tympani
« Last post by tbmartin on Yesterday at 10:37:33 AM »
note: there is an interesting effect, an illusion if you will, where if your other bass instruments are playing one note, your timps can actually play the "wrong" note and the impression will still be of the correct note. For example, a loud, held F in all of your bass instruments while your timp plays a G, will give the impression that everyone is playing the F.

Another "cheat" is to have the timps play a different note in the chord rather than forcing a retune. Substituting the fifth for the root or vice-versa is probably least noticable.
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Compositions / Re: Short piece for Wind Band, work in progress
« Last post by Ron on Yesterday at 09:50:03 AM »
I can't really comment in any meaningful way, as I am not familiar with works for concert band, but I enjoyed it.

BTW, your labels for pdf and mp3 in the main text of your post are reversed.
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Orchestration / Re: Composing for Tympani
« Last post by whitebark on October 22, 2017, 03:07:47 PM »
Thanks for the info, Michel. It does look like preparing a proper tympani part can take a little thought and planning.
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Completed Works: Senior / Re: Violin Concerto, 1st and 2nd movements
« Last post by Michel.R.E on October 22, 2017, 02:48:17 PM »
Thank-you Morten.

I was, at first, a bit leery of that Adagio movement, with it being so lyrical and tonal, but one of my composer friends pointed out that despite the firmly established tonality, the movement is quite modern in its approach.

And anyways, I'd always wanted to write a really lyrical and emotional theme. I think I succeeded with this one.
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Compositions / Short piece for Wind Band, work in progress
« Last post by mjw58 on October 22, 2017, 02:41:18 PM »

I havenít finished any music in quite a while. This one isnít finished either, but itís something Iíve been working on for some time. I thought I would post it as a work in progress.
It started out with the first 12 bars or so. Then it stopped. I couldnít get any further. Then I suddenly got the last 9 bars written down. Then I ended up writing some variations on the opening theme.

I have cleaned up the score somewhat but thereís probably more errors.
I have found some my self.
The rendition is what it is. I havenít had time fixing it.  :)

I have some new ideas regarding the instrumentation in various places.
I have no title and no idea where this will lead me.

Comments appreciated.  :)

PDF
https://app.box.com/s/tv4nipf6m4jb8619exx5vhvocgpkt3j4

MP3
https://app.box.com/s/ijsayo23qmn53izrunn2kcd3v1brnsbl




Morten

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Completed Works: Senior / Re: Violin Concerto, 1st and 2nd movements
« Last post by mjw58 on October 22, 2017, 01:44:45 PM »

Michel, I took the time to listen to both movements and I really liked them both.
I may not have much to offer other than from a listenerís point of view but itís a fantastic piece of music.

The, to me, playfull 1st movement.
And the Elegy is justÖ.WOW

Morten
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Orchestration / Re: Composing for Tympani
« Last post by Michel.R.E on October 22, 2017, 12:04:16 PM »
 a normal set of timpani has 4 kettles, and each one covers a specific range of notes. So you can't just "write the notes you need" but do need to take into consideration that there is a BIT of overlap between kettles but not a huge amount of leeway.

from largest (lowest) to smallest:
D - A (starting on the D below the staff)
F - C
Bb - F
D - A
(there are smaller drums that can be added going up, but they are rarer)

so as you see, each drum more or less covers a fifth, and there is an overlap of a minor third in most cases.

tuning CAN be relatively quick, but it is always best to leave enough time to get the RIGHT tuning. leave at least a measure in a moderate tempo, two if it's a rapid tempo.

note: there is an interesting effect, an illusion if you will, where if your other bass instruments are playing one note, your timps can actually play the "wrong" note and the impression will still be of the correct note. For example, a loud, held F in all of your bass instruments while your timp plays a G, will give the impression that everyone is playing the F.
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Orchestration / Composing for Tympani
« Last post by whitebark on October 22, 2017, 11:24:12 AM »
In classical era works, the tympani were tuned once before playing a work, and could only play one note.  Modern tympani can be re-tuned quickly with a pedal - but how quickly?  When composing a part for tympani, should one just write whatever notes come to mind, and let the tympani player figure it out how to play the part?  Or should parts be written mostly with each tympani head staying on one note, with plenty of time allowed for any needed re-tuning of the instrument?

Jay
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Completed Works: Senior / Re: Violin Concerto, 1st and 2nd movements
« Last post by Michel.R.E on October 21, 2017, 02:08:38 PM »
thanks again, Jer.
I'm dying for the violinist who's performing it to get her hands on it.
She's already looked at the adagio but hasn't seen the 1st movement, and of course no one's seen the last movement, not even me.
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Completed Works: Senior / Re: Violin Concerto, 1st and 2nd movements
« Last post by Jerry Engelbach on October 21, 2017, 01:50:17 PM »
Michel,
 
Actually, I have listened to it, and followed the score. It's a terrific violin solo. Playing it on the piano was extra.
 
I've also read your tutorials on orchestrating, which I found illuminating. I'm catching up on earlier posts.
 
Cheers,
Jer
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